Cephalius wrote: ↑
Wed May 08, 2019 7:22 pm
When we are already talking about hymns, is it really harmful to practice additional chants, which in themselves have a different intension than the hymns of the SoA, for example the Sinister Chants of the o9a?
I do not know if anyone is well versed in this area, but are certain chants really dangerous if used incorrectly, for example, if one interprets the chants differently or by focusing on a task that contradicts the chants' original purpose? I just want to be sure, because the members of the o9a say that you can even die if you use chants wrong ... Maybe a bit over the top, but maybe not ... Can I really only learn it by trying it out? I am a bit nervous...
Right, so, my reply is maybe a bit strict but bear with me
I think that with occult work it is not very wise to go about without at least some kind of a plan. I also think that our contemporary time, which is very surface-focused, puts too much value on the visible or outer layers. This is true in the occult world also. Too much value is put on rituals and how things look like, and too little on person's inner growth which in my opinion is largely a journey of ethical and philosophical pondering. But I get why it doesn't interest most people, it can be very unexciting work. I do think that some things we are able to make our mind on without having to try it. For example I certainly can understand that I don't have to kill someone in order to understand that it would be wrong to kill someone.
The reader will bear in mind as they read my text that I detest ONA and other groups of similar nature that idolize violence, torture and/or criminal acts. To me this is nothing but a continuation of the blackmetal & motorcycle mindset; absurdly childish, weak and contrary to what they are quick to say, extremely herd mentality. I've rarely encountered as frail egos as in that kind of circles. There is a lot of unnecessary mystifying in groups like that. It bores me. I do think that there is a level of this deliberate mystifying in these rituals you mentioned, the purpose is to attract people with it because it sounds "cool".
But it is also true that each occult group without a doubt has their own energetic field that will affect the people who step into that field. One has to consider the question as to why
one chooses or feels the necessity for the field they choose. One always should be careful in doing any occult work, because ritual formulae, words, gestures, symbols, do have a certain tone of their own. I see this in my role in the fraternity all the time, that my actions and choices will quite directly affect the ones that I'm working with. I have to be very responsible. Mixing rituals can be a bit hazardous because then something starts to work in good or bad and it can be difficult to decide which part it is.
I do find value in some pondering on the anti cosmic view(s), that is to say, in the inevitable ending of everything. But for me the path is having to face the loss of everything that is meaningful in humanity and the world. Mainly to me this means great works of art and the destruction of nature. My path laments and weeps the loss, but does not attempt to accelerate it, seeks no joy in that destruction. And neither do I turn away from it and hide; I watch and observe and attempt to not give space in my heart for hating the mankind that is the root of all of that destruction. It's very difficult because I care too much; but this is typical to my temperament and also my path which is both the rose and the cross.
obnoxion wrote: ↑
Wed May 08, 2019 6:56 pm
Heith wrote: ↑
Wed May 08, 2019 11:15 am
...There are squares that have to be jumped on one foot (so this we could say, LHP or RHP), but there are also those that need your weaker foot, and the last ones are traditionally jumped with both simultaneously.
What a wonderful metaphor! I've had the modern schoolyard court hopscotch design chalked on the front yard of my house for a while now - it is the one that looks like a two-beamed cross - but from now on I shall consider it my Heraldic Crest.
I thought this might be something you would understand, as you often value games and the imagination of childhood games and experiences very highly. Happy jumping!