It happened quite a few months ago.obnoxion wrote:
Well, not being a Thelemite anymore (or was this not a recent change...?). And also, if I haven't got you wrong, I thought you prefered the Caliphate interpretation to the Typhonian...
No, I rejected (when I was a Thelemite) much of Caliphate and even Crowley himself's interpretations and conclusions (I don't believe in the HGA, being "higher self" or otherwise). I was coming to Thelema from two angles: Islamic in my view of Aiwass (that it is a force beyond Crowley's mind, that it was from God), and Hindu in my view of the deities and much of the theological/metaphysical/philosophical aspects.
I very much respect Kenneth Grant combined with any other successor of Crowley, as he had the balls to explore things instead of simply being another Crowley fan or rehasher.
Thelema was serious for me, as it was my religion - I loathed people claiming it to only be a philosophy, it seemed like a complete cop-out, a safe way to defend their interest in Crowley's work (in their perspective).
For me, I felt Crowley was very mislead in much of his interpretation of Liber Legis and the "Thelema" he build around it, still I loved many of his writings.
The Book Of Lies is still a favorite piece of literature/poetry/aphorism/riddles but I have since tried to stay away from Thelema and have rejected it completely and Crowley himself (I even took all my Crowley books of my bookcase and put them away). And Liber Legis, I have practically memorized from reading it as much as I have, I have sections of it pop up in my mind on a daily basis still - I can't get it out.
During the period of leaving it behind, I explored Sufism with great immersion for a while but have settled into a splash of the three things that sit comfortably with my natural way of seeing the world; Hinduism, Hermeticism and Discordianism. But I am at the moment mostly letting religion, spirituality, philosophy and the occult sit quietly in the background in my life at the moment.
To restate however, I really have deep respect for Kenneth Grant. I never agreed on a lot of his own conclusions or connections but found him to be an invaluable writer, who alone can send you off into further study elsewhere. Michael Bertiaux was also someone I had quite a bit of respect for, in spite of also not agreeing largely with. Both of them in a sense, explore the conceptual depth of Thelema and go down the rabbit hole. It scares (or even embarrasses) many Thelemites because they have a balance between crazy (Thelema itself) and sane (public appearance and perception) they are trying to keep up. Thelema really isn't your average coffee conversation, so dressing it up in psychological pseudo-intellectual talk to make up for that certain anxiety is obviously gonna make them more self-comforted that they don't have really wacky beliefs
Kenneth Grant takes away that safety net completely. In a way, Kenneth Grant is MORE loyal to what Thelema is than all of modern Thelema but at the same time, he is completely off.
As far as Thelema communities (online and not) go, the less I say the better