Mormonism & Luciferian Concepts of Godhood

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Mormonism & Luciferian Concepts of Godhood

Postby Vavrinec » Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:15 am

One question that I have concerning Luciferianism & Satanism is the reoccurring theme of 'godhood'. Most information I have studied on the subject in this area is not much different then the tenets that exist within the Mormon church. The Mormons do believe that if they follow 'god's plan' that eventually they will all become gods & goddesses & will inherit their own worlds in which they may create more people in order to continue the process of salvation. Most Luciferian & Satanic works I've studied contend that godhood is the ultimate goal to be achieved by those who practice the Dark Arts. Within Gnosticism the idea of godhood is abhorrent! The ultimate goal to be achieved by the Gnostic would be the cessation of all life & elimination of the creative forces in the Universe & the returning of the Lifeforces of created beings back to th Source, ie, the realms of the Agnostos Theos, the Unknown God. So when the term Luciferian Gnosticism appears, I assume that the tenets, or principle teachings, of this would be primarily to remove the creative powers of the demiurge by bringing gnosis or knowledge to the world & ending the cycle of life & death. I don't really understand the connection between achieving godhood, becoming god's equal, or why anyone would want to become a god. Can you explain this to me & why? I don't see any point to godhood except to achieve absolute power & pure unadulterated corruption to be achieved by it.
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Re: Mormonism & Luciferian Concepts of Godhood

Postby Kenazis » Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:48 pm

I think many that uses the title Luciferian Gnosticism use it loosely. Gnosticism is to seek gnosis that is interpreted as knowledge. What this knowledge is, varies by person claiming to seek it. But, about the Mormons and Luciferians…Becoming god/attaining godhood is the connecting point of these two, but what the Mormons and Luciferians mean by godhood might be very different things. I haven’t heard or read any Luciferian source that would see the god, Lucifer and Christ in similar sense than Mormons do. Christ is older brother of Lucifer and Elohim(God) is their father + God was once a man and similarly we all can become like him. What you describe to be Luciferian Gnosticism seems pretty good description to me. I think what would be big problem to Luciferian with Mormonism (along with obvious moral-dimension) is that in the end Mormons worship and obey father-figure god that was once a man.
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Re: Mormonism & Luciferian Concepts of Godhood

Postby Nefastos » Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:56 am

Kenazis wrote:...father-figure god that was once a man.


While the psychological, let alone metaphysical problems in this are immense, your words remind me of the teaching in the Secret Doctrine that a human state is an unavoidable rung in all evolution of spirit. The tiniest soul of a microbe is destined to become a man someday, and the highest divinity has been a human being in some distant past universe.

But, this regretfully is a doctrine that awakens wrong associations in anyone who is not actually able to vision the tremendous amount of time & therefore change needed for this, and also how different things "human" can mean in vastly different living conditions. What a "human being" is in some distant star is most likely not only impossible for us to detect at all, but also if somehow perceived, would most likely hide its alien intelligence (ability to reason being the prime requisite of the fivefold human being) under a form that would seem to us like a mineral, a chemical reaction, a weather effect, an equation, or some unbelieavable biological monstrosity (like we ourselves are) made up by the cooperation of guiding thought & unfinished physical evolution.

EDIT: Thanks for spotting the pesky typo, Kenazis.
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Re: Mormonism & Luciferian Concepts of Godhood

Postby Kenazis » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:00 pm

Nefastos wrote:your words remind me of the teaching in the Secret Doctrine that a human state is an avoidable rung in all evolution of spirit. The tiniest soul of a microbe is destined to become a man someday, and the highest divinity has been a human being in some distant past universe..
you mean unavoidable? Just to be sure.
Nefastos wrote:But, this regretfully is a doctrine that awakens wrong associations in anyone who is not actually able to vision the tremendous amount of time & therefore change needed for this, and also how different things "human" can mean in vastly different living conditions. What a "human being" is in some distant star is most likely not only impossible for us to detect at all, but also if somehow perceived, would most likely hide its alien intelligence (ability to reason being the prime requisite of the fivefold human being) under a form that would seem to us like a mineral, a chemical reaction, a weather effect, an equation, or some unbelieavable biological monstrosity (like we ourselves are) made up by the cooperation of guiding thought & unfinished physical evolution.
Both, Church of Latter Day Saints and Jehovah's Witnesses, has interesting mythology behind them. Both have been heavily influenced By occult doctrines, but neither admits it. This denial of their roots will always give birth problems that stains the possibility of good they might otherwise generate.
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Re: Mormonism & Luciferian Concepts of Godhood

Postby Nefastos » Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:41 pm

Kenazis wrote:you mean unavoidable? Just to be sure.


Ah, indeed. Must be my wishful thinking making the Freudian slips. Corrected.

Kenazis wrote:This denial of their roots will always give birth problems that stains the possibility of good they might otherwise generate.


This, by the way, is a very good point regarding all sorts of occult shools, including the semi & pseudo variants. It is a very good way to sever the succession of inspiration (in the word's deep occult sense), which is the most vital part of any spiritual enterprise.
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