Good books on occultism for beginners

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I´ve read the cathechism of lucifer several times still reading the fosforos since it will take time to absorb the knowledge within this book. If you would rush it you would wind up missing importand messages the argarizim still going buy it only the moments can be difficult.
The secret of the ages would come as required since the book is collection and explenation of more then one subject
This would give the reader insight upon what they want to learn about
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Darksoul2021 wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:06 pm If you would rush it you would wind up missing importand messages the argarizim still going buy it only the moments can be difficult.
This has been also my way to read books. I guess it comes down to the temperament of a hardcore daydreamer. The topics of the books create so intense currents in my mind that I have to follow them to find a living understanding of what the author has written. If I do not follow these currents consciously, I will end up reading the text without understanding a single world because my mind is blindly following the previous train of thought that came from a previous part. And the worst part is that those trains of thought have deteriorated to rather random associations if I have ignored them by continuing to read. Thus it is important to find patience to stop at the parts of the book that require to do so, and try to find balance in following the thoughts and being critical towards the directions my associations go.

Darksoul2021 wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:06 pmThe secret of the ages would come as required since the book is collection and explenation of more then one subject
This would give the reader insight upon what they want to learn about
I am not familiar with this book, but I agree that it is crucial to try and gain a view of the bigger picture. Without context we are lost and doomed to remain blind and ignorant.
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Darksoul2021 wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:06 pm The secret of the ages would come as required since the book is collection and explenation of more then one subject
I'm guessing that's Manly P. Hall's "Secret Teachings of All the Ages". I started reading that a while ago, but the felt like I've already read a bunch of books that cover broadly all the interesting esoteric subjects. It good though, and maybe I'll give it another go.

Eliphas Levi's "History of Magic" is a classic, that I'll read again.
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Besides SOA material I would suggest either Condensed Chaos or Liber Null and Psychonaut if have any passing interest in magic or want a better understanding of occultism post-Parson's Babalon Working (which in my opinion is an inflection point and marked the end of the reign of ceremonial magic that began with the Order of the Golden Dawn).
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Erlander wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:36 am Besides SOA material I would suggest either Condensed Chaos or Liber Null and Psychonaut if have any passing interest in magic or want a better understanding of occultism post-Parson's Babalon Working (which in my opinion is an inflection point and marked the end of the reign of ceremonial magic that began with the Order of the Golden Dawn).
Retrospectively one could argue these currents of chaos magic and Parsons Babalon Working, ending the reign of ceremonial magic, were the result of the general influence of the secularized world (carrying the seed of nihilism) imprinted on some magical traditions. Parsons was arguably very much attached to the secular world by his professional drive. What creates a very interesting point of view to this discussion is to what extent this secularization of the culture at large could have been and is a step in spiritual evolution, when we overcome the nihilistic shadow of secularization? In a recent Lucifer lodge meeting, which I happened to attend as a visitor, Nefastos shortly mentioned the idea of Saturn no longer being the furthest point we know due to the scientific leaps the human kind has taken, resulting in somewhat differently positioned state of mind to the power or an archetype, which Saturn has symbolically represented. How to consciously make the most out of this new position to the old problem? How to bring these steps, going seemingly towards different directions, to walk the one Path? Many questions arise from this point.

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Smaragd wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:32 pm
Erlander wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:36 am Besides SOA material I would suggest either Condensed Chaos or Liber Null and Psychonaut if have any passing interest in magic or want a better understanding of occultism post-Parson's Babalon Working (which in my opinion is an inflection point and marked the end of the reign of ceremonial magic that began with the Order of the Golden Dawn).
Retrospectively one could argue these currents of chaos magic and Parsons Babalon Working, ending the reign of ceremonial magic, were the result of the general influence of the secularized world (carrying the seed of nihilism) imprinted on some magical traditions. Parsons was arguably very much attached to the secular world by his professional drive. What creates a very interesting point of view to this discussion is to what extent this secularization of the culture at large could have been and is a step in spiritual evolution, when we overcome the nihilistic shadow of secularization? In a recent Lucifer lodge meeting, which I happened to attend as a visitor, Nefastos shortly mentioned the idea of Saturn no longer being the furthest point we know due to the scientific leaps the human kind has taken, resulting in somewhat differently positioned state of mind to the power or an archetype, which Saturn has symbolically represented. How to consciously make the most out of this new position to the old problem? How to bring these steps, going seemingly towards different directions, to walk the one Path? Many questions arise from this point.

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The idea of newly found celestial objects in astrology impacting an age or people in a unique way shortly after their discovery is something discussed often in astrological circles. I would point to John Michael Greer's book on Pluto as an in-depth review of the subject. At least in my view the Babalon working while generally, a failure did open a spiritual current that led to the 60s and the easing of norms that followed in the following decades. The solution to new problems is the rediscovery and reinterpretation of old ideas.
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Erlander wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:07 am The solution to new problems is the rediscovery and reinterpretation of old ideas.
Although the planetary symbolism is valid, rich and keeps giving, I do feel quite alot of ease when given the task to try and reach the meaning of these spirits beyond the heavy apparitions of dust and gas, or planetary mythologies that could seem nearly dead to one's cababilities of interpretation or dead on the first steps of the process of integrating the new world to the old. Ofcourse there's alot of wisdom and steps to be overlooked in such leaps to the new world, which could be even seen as a central problem of our age where such an amount of information is readily available to people. The temptation to pick the cherries from the cake is great, and doing the ground work is easily left aside.
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