Red Bird wrote:Keeping chaos requires a big amount of control in everyday life so seeing chaos as something uncontrolled doesn’t make sense.
obnoxion wrote:RPSTOVAL wrote:I'm reading Liber Null (Carroll) at the moment. I've always kind of seen Chaos Magick as a joke but the book is interesting. It quite clearly owes many ideas from Spare and little convenient borrowings from Crowley but again, the book and message of Null is interesting
Here the concept of chaos stems primarily - am I right - from the mathematics of dynamics, that we all learnt from the first Jurassic Park movie back in the day.
How about electronics? Electrical circuits often show complex reactions that are stated as “chaotic” aka “unpredictable”. Numerous hardware simulations are not able to show any kind of regularity or logic so there needs to be an unknown influence and this exactly where it gets interesting: Seeking a manifestation for unknown influences. This can be easily transferred into psychology/occultism.
obnoxion wrote:But I think I remember fra Nefastos writing that what we mean by electricity is but the corpse of Fohat. I have some times thought about this, and how this might correspond to the well-known image of a flaccid Serpent nailed to the horizontal beam of the cross.
Looking it from the electronic music point of view, the machinery used are designed to have as broad set of controls as possible. Synthesis is about control in a sense that you have everything taken in to their basic elements and you may start placing them together again. But then also in this environment (even in the software world) something unexpected and hardly reproduciple can occur when we as humans combine our ideas spotaneously with the mechanics. It's like the cold hand of black magician at the work of sacred lineage. Such deeds may be sanctified in the moment by, at least in my interpetration, unlocking the door with the Hieroglyphic Key. Unforced the living "chaos" pours in to the corpse of Fohat, is what follows.
Working with sound such occurrences have happened to me also in a form of annoying, summer or two long, construction site next door that one day turned in to beautiful Sirens singing through some tools unknown to me, but I bet they used water in destrying some surfaces. Propably the best field recording I've done. Just observing and letting the tape roll by itself.
Nefastos wrote:It (S/He) is the mirror reality for that nirvanic union wherein the poles in union would cancel each other out: in the Fohatic union, instead of being cancelled, both keep their own and each other's characteristics. And to the point this can be done by a magician, he is able to channel Fohat by Vâc. But... in order to accomplish that, one must already be free from needs of becoming Something Else, or his or her polarity will be swapped, instead of being merged, in the magical coitus with the Matrix. (This is the reason why bearing children is more common than becoming an enlightened magician: polarities swap in the union, instead of "taking back one step while advancing one", as the Zen lesson puts it.)
It seems like the Zen lesson states every creative act powerful enough to manifest in the physical is a failure in itself. But also these failures need to be done to progress on the path, its the treasure hunt for the immanent in these failures.
It isn't obvious for me to concider the polarity swaps that move in the horizontal axis (false movement from the mirror image to the next) to not be part of the same failure, though one may fool oneself to think progress is happening (or to think there is no progress at all) but in reality it's only the polarity swapping that are under concideration there.