I had expected some antipathy, because my last conversation about mysogony did not end so well. That’s partly my fault since diplomacy is not exactly my strenght and this is an emotionally charged, explosive topic which must be discussed in a more cautious way. (Which is what I’m trying to do now...hopefully it works )
However it is very pleasant how calm and appreciative the discussions in this forum are, even though there are often many different opinions.
Cancer wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:54 pmThe anima-animus-phenomenon (if there indeed is one; I can only speak for my anima) could maybe be explained by non-conforming children experiencing much of the pettiness common to all people "through", or among, other children of the same gender. All that is dull and oppressive about everyday life would thus be associated with that gender, and the soul - all that is exciting and liberating about inner life - with another. This would certainly fit my experience. Nail polish and shoujo anime eventually became signifiers of freedom for me because no-one had tried to push me in their direction. Many "boyish" things, on the contrary, felt stifling, because so many authority figures had expected me to like them.
Yes, this is a good point. It is, I believe a way of breaking free from social and cultural suggestions which is certainly not the most comfortable way of living. This could be a reason why you like to polish your nails and I prefer grinding wood.
I tend to think that a women with a strong masculinity cause less rejection or even aggression in society than a feminine man which would be a clear sign that masculinity is rated higher. Do you see this tendency in Finland too?
The corpse is just crawling out of it’s tomb again in a brandnew dress but ist stinks even more. Jehovah‘s unquestionable word, or the misinterpretation of it, has been replaced by the absolutism of science although most people don’t even understand basic statistical mathematics and use those studies for a kind of deductive, dogmatic categorization. It reminds me on „Women can’t be leaders because god made them for men“.Nefastos wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:27 amThat corpse is still in move, huh? That is vile. (I take that you mean by "metaphysical significance" that this interpretation could justify putting limits to undestanding & abilities of each sex? Most probably to one opposite to the interpreter's own?) I thought that this kind of psychosomatic jail argument that the other sex is somehow soulless or unable to understand because of an innate lacking would now have been mummified inside the tents of those evangelists still living the middle ages.
Could it be, that you are communicating on a different level? (Just a guess)Wyrmfang wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:05 pmI don´t still fully understand what it is that doesn´t work, but luckily the issue is not that acute as I somehow managed to get a relationship, and have been in it almost 9 years. I guess it is some aspect of sensitiveness, which is not allowed for men, and which I mysef haven´t fully recognized, even if in most other matters I don´t care much about social expectations. I was very much into the model of thought today labeled as "incel" (luckily, at that time these communities and the concept did not exist, or at least I was not aware of it).
It happens every now and then that others talk to me on an emotional or personal level, and I respond with factual or intellectual answers because I just do not notice how emotionally involved the other person is. This was taken as a rejection quite often and left me with an alien-like feeling because it took me a while to understand what went wrong. It was also problematic when I tried to make female friends and I see it as a leftover of my slightly misogyn mindset that involved the illusion of rationality.