Partners with different belief systems

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Re: Partners with different belief systems

Postby Ave » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:01 pm

I don't know anything about relationships, but I've pondered this issue myself.

Ex-husband / partner of mine is sort of a "a mundane agnostic". He doesn't jugde my occultistic/spiritual inquiries - which is elementary, but sometimes I've imagined what would it be like if a partner of mine would have an occultistic calling. My rare long-time relationships have been with men who have "balanced" me being "engineer-like". I thought that being with my ex-husband would be the Marridge of the Opposites per se... But I don't really know what to make of it anymore.

For me also there are only few dealbreakers when it comes to belief systems of a partner. More than that, it's important what one makes out of his beliefs. Aknowledging one's shadow and working with it is a deal breaker for me. Or so I wanted it to be... The problem is that I don't think I'm that capable of evaluating how someone else is doing their shadow work. I'm only capable of evaluating myself - in that all-human-self-deceptive-way. Hahha. (Kind of frustrated right now, and listening Ulver.)

In this thread other noted that being a part of fraternity/sorority has took off some pressure from their close relationships. The finding of a like-spirited communion is still a work in process for me. Even though I have experienced connection here in AT/AS's forum, in real life I live a quite isolated life.
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Re: Partners with different belief systems

Postby Polyhymnia » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:05 pm

Ave wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:01 pm

(Kind of frustrated right now, and listening Ulver.)
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Ave wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:01 pm
In this thread other noted that being a part of fraternity/sorority has took off some pressure from their close relationships. The finding of a like-spirited communion is still a work in process for me. Even though I have experienced connection here in AT/AS's forum, in real life I live a quite isolated life.
I think the physical element of connectedness really does play a big part in the spiritual path. I know that personally I feel an almost hunger for face to face spiritual interaction, and I have one dear friend who I'm able to discuss such matters with face to face, but beyond that I'm pretty isolated myself. At least in that sense. That's why the idea of a Lodge based structure is so appealing to me so one can merge the physical interaction with the mental and spiritual.
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Re: Partners with different belief systems

Postby Polyhymnia » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:10 pm

obnoxion wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:35 pm
When it comes to sexual tension, I'm with Prince - "you don't have to be beautiful to turn me on". I suppose I could be excited by almost any adult, though I strongly prefer females. So the sexual tension doesn't need be there, because that I can conhure up (at least for myself). And, on the other hand, I can imagine myself in a sexless relationship. So that's not an issue.
I've had Prince stuck in my head for days now since I first read this reply 8-) I have very similar views myself towards sexual tension and the like. Sometimes I'm curious about sexual union in the realm of magic, but at the end of the day it doesn't very much matter to me. The things that attract me to someone are their intellect and compassion, and that attraction is stronger for me than any sexual attraction could be, so I could absolutely imagine myself in a sexless relationship also.
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Re: Partners with different belief systems

Postby Polyhymnia » Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:39 pm

obnoxion wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:21 pm

And to think that protestant sectarianism was such a huge part of his life, being born in a Seventh Day Adventist home and becoming a Jehova's Witness in later life. So would that be a problem if considering dating him?
I had no idea he was a Jehovah's Witness! Hmm..you know..I don't know if I could date a Jehovah's Witness. Even if it was Prince. I really like Christmas.
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Re: Partners with different belief systems

Postby Cerastes » Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:07 pm

Polyhymnia wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:10 pm
I could absolutely imagine myself in a sexless relationship also.
Whaaat? A sexless relationship? No way! :lol:
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Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:54 am
For example, if two people had known each other as kids, and then would meet again as adults. It could be that there'd be a spark that crosses the formal barriers, and there'd suddenly just be two people who would see each other - and also themselves - in a new light. It could be one of those moments when a lightning strikes in the dark and everything seems clear for a moment.
If one is able to see the person beyond all learned bias, such a relationship might be possible and sure could shake the own world view to the core. Especially persons who knew within childhood often leave a deep mark within their souls. Seeing such a person again after many years can release the same innocent and playful feeling that once shaped our worldview as a child.
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Re: Partners with different belief systems

Postby Nefastos » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:09 pm

Would it be okay for you if I remove these last messages from here and instead start from them a new thread about sex? That would be a very interesting topic to discuss as its own.
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Re: Partners with different belief systems

Postby Polyhymnia » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:55 pm

I'm okay with any of my replies regarding sex being deleted and rerouting the convo to another thread! Sorry to get off topic. Sex is an easy topic with which to get distracted.
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Re: Partners with different belief systems

Postby obnoxion » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:24 pm

I think the sex theme started with my first post. I'm ok with deleting my messages. Perhaps we will continue in another thread.
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Re: Partners with different belief systems

Postby Nefastos » Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:07 am

By "removing from here" I actually meant splitting these messages to start another topic with them; I am sorry about seeming to imply that such conversation would have been unwelcome here...

Here is the new topic.
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Re: Partners with different belief systems

Postby obnoxion » Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:12 pm

Nefastos wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:07 am
By "removing from here" I actually meant splitting these messages to start another topic with them; I am sorry about seeming to imply that such conversation would have been unwelcome here...

Here is the new topic.
Oh, I misunderstood. I've been a bit ill and sleep-deprived lately, and I tend to miss many obvious things. Perhaps it is because I've never been much of a moderator, thaI I just thought that we'd begin the discussion aftesh, and the important stuff would be eventually repeated. Now that I think of it, it does seem a bit silly assumption....
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