Quotations relevant to the Path

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Nefastos wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 10:36 am
Mars wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 8:41 pm
"Jung understood nothing about archetypes."

Meaning that Jung used the word "archetype" in a bit different meaning than the word is used in occult context?
Seyyed Hossein Nasr is of the Traditionalist school, and he is inspired especially by Frithjof Schuon. As Frithjof Schuon considers the classical depth psychology to be satanic, it is only to be expected that Nasr subscribes to the same Traditionalist dogma. Another Traditionslist dogma is that post-renaissance art is degenerate. It might seem strange that such movent should have so strong stance on art, but it has to be remembered that Traditionalism was first concerned with art history. I am an avid reader of Traditionalist writers, but I disagree on many importan topics with them. For example, I admire modern art and consider C.G. Jung one of the most important Western thinkers.
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This made me start a thread of its own: Chasms Between Esoteric Schools & How to Bridge Them.
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Nefastos wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 10:36 am
Mars wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 8:41 pm
"Jung understood nothing about archetypes."

Meaning that Jung used the word "archetype" in a bit different meaning than the word is used in occult context?
Obnoxion explained the Traditionalist's attitude towards depth psychology well. The Nasr quote has haunted me for years and to me it's very representative of the attitude of the Traditionalists which is mostly the reason why I'm so wary of them. I was reminded of this quote again when I read obnoxion's Nasr quote above. Another one is Frithjof Schuon's "The worst king is better than the best president."
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"Recently I've come across references stating that the ancient Greek poets had been taught their poetry by the birds. This really gets back to understanding the beginnings of Western philosophy, and to the fact that these so called philosophers weren’t simply speaking poetry. They were actually speaking the language of animals, of nature. And I find that when I am speaking in my work about the origins of Western culture I, too, am speaking the language of nature."

- Peter Kingsley, in this interview.
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Mars wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 1:50 pm
"The worst king is better than the best president."
This is misanthropic madness. I, too, have royalist leanings, and I admire the Nepal-mandala and the kingdom of Bhutan. But as one can see from the example of Nepal, strictly metaphysical models will not save from eventual decline. No outer form will last.
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obnoxion wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 10:31 pm
Mars wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 1:50 pm
"The worst king is better than the best president."
This is misanthropic madness. I, too, have royalist leanings, and I admire the Nepal-mandala and the kingdom of Bhutan. But as one can see from the example of Nepal, strictly metaphysical models will not save from eventual decline. No outer form will last.
Yes, this is my main problem with the Traditionalists; their esoterism is so tied in forms that it drowns with them.
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