Quotations relevant to the Path

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Re: Quotations relevant to the Path

Postby obnoxion » Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:19 pm

[The !Kung] tell the tales of =Gao!na's doings without restraint, say his name aloud, howl and roll on the ground with laughter at his humiliations, whereas, when they speak of the great one of the east, they whisper and avoid his name. Yet they think that somehow in the rightness of things these two beings must be the same, or so they are said to be.

- This extraxt is from Marshal. L.'s "!Kung Bushman Religious Beliefs" (1962). I took tho quote from Mathias Guenther's "Tricksters & Trancers - Bushman Religion and Society" (Indiana University Press, 1999; page 96).
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Re: Quotations relevant to the Path

Postby Cancer » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:22 am

Consider Satan at the start of Paradise Lost, moments after the Fall. Milton describes Satan’s position in absolute terms: “a dungeon horrible” that consists only of “sights of woe, / Regions of sorrow, doleful shades, where peace / And rest can never dwell, hope never comes / That comes to all, but torture without end.” “Such place,” Milton says, “Eternal Justice has prepared / For those rebellious.” It is as brutal a display of formalist power as exists, and yet in its face Satan jumps up and takes charge and issues one of the most famous speeches in English literature, proclaiming that for all of God’s strength, “Not for those, / Nor what the potent Victor in his rage / Can else inflict, do I repent, or change,” proclaiming that there is nothing God can do that will make him “bow and sue for grace / With suppliant knee, and deify his power.”

Clearly unacceptable. But in some ways more horrifying is Satan’s monologue in Book Four in which he contemplates redemption, asking, “Is there no place / Left for repentance, none for pardon left? / None left but by submission; and that word / Disdain forbids me,” and noting that even if he did repent, “How soon / Would highth recall high thoughts, how soon unsay / What feigned submission swore? Ease would recant / Vows made in pain, as violent and void.” In other words, Satan’s defiance goes beyond any mere choice. He did not vote for revolution. Rather, he is an intrinsic and inevitable force of revolution, incapable of doing anything but defying authority. As he puts it, in the speech’s most famous line, “Myself am hell.”

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