The Symbolism of The Decapitating Feminine

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Nefastos wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:06 am
Smaragd wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:36 pm
I've observed two ways one can go from there: run away from the head, abandon it and eventually, whether in this or some coming incarnations, slip to insanity in the mysteries of Dionysus.

It is no wonder that nowadays, when our culture has at least one & half century been what it is (prostrated worship of the head-ego), that people "aufer corpus, caput ne tangito" (run with the body & leave the head). And this is extremely easy, on the surface, because such a way was the primitive way, that our body still remembers. So we are trying to turn and run, instead of taking responsibility & putting the focus where it should in the process of balancing, i.e. in the heart that would unite the head with the peripheral body. (This is one reason why I have stressed the not very orthodox reading of buddhi as the center of emotion, instead of intellect, which would be more to the line of the old Sanskrit doctrine.)


It's very strange and interesting as I have read some of the Persian poetry in such way as you are interpreting Sanskrit doctrine - that heart is the grounding element of body and head.
In some of the poetry I am referring to the intellectuals who trust in their head and claim to be wise and sanest people but have grown without heart so their mind goes around and around like needle of compass but love knows that while abandoning the heart they are really the lost ones as needle of compass could show the path when heart is on correct place and well grounded.

I have also read that actually emotions play a one of the key roles in decision making and this idea is very opposite to ones that claim that only by separating emotions from logic one could make rational decisions.

About decapitation... Kali beheading... Shiva? I tried year ago do a bit of a research about this topic but I would have needed books to read and instead I found myself reading different interpretations of it but I couldn't make my mind based on that. There is also certain cultural barrier and richness of mythology that muddies the water for me at least, I assume.
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It was a delightful surprise that this sparked such lively discussion!
Kavi wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:21 pm
About decapitation... Kali beheading... Shiva?
I am quite sure that in the tantric iconocraphy the decapitated head is always asura's, never Shiva's. In hindu tantric iconocraphy, Shiva lays in the corpse-position, and Goddess stands on Shiva, with her foot pressed against Shiva's heart. In the Buddhist tantric imagery, the god and the goddess are usually in sexual congress, and they often stand on demonic beings (mostly demonized hindu deities) Whether it be the asura or the demonic beings, they are blissfully relieved to be subdued.
One day of Brahma has 14 Indras; his life has 54 000 Indras. One day of Vishnu is the lifetime of Brahma. The lifetime of Vishnu is one day of Shiva.
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Re: The Symbolism of The Decapitating Feminine

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obnoxion wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:21 pm
It was a delightful surprise that this sparked such lively discussion!
Kavi wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:21 pm
About decapitation... Kali beheading... Shiva?
I am quite sure that in the tantric iconocraphy the decapitated head is always asura's, never Shiva's. In hindu tantric iconocraphy, Shiva lays in the corpse-position, and Goddess stands on Shiva, with her foot pressed against Shiva's heart. In the Buddhist tantric imagery, the god and the goddess are usually in sexual congress, and they often stand on demonic beings (mostly demonized hindu deities) Whether it be the asura or the demonic beings, they are blissfully relieved to be subdued.
This explains a lot!
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Do you think this passage from the Bible could be interpreted in light of this decapitation symbolism? (If memory serves me right, the Finnish rock musician and theologist Kari Peitsamo made some such interpretations a few years ago on the papers. I think it wasn't so much about decapitation, than on a notion of essential headlessness of men...)

But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God

1. Corinthians 11:3.
One day of Brahma has 14 Indras; his life has 54 000 Indras. One day of Vishnu is the lifetime of Brahma. The lifetime of Vishnu is one day of Shiva.
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