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Re: The issue with a religion of the Devil

Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 6:20 pm
by Kavi
Jiva wrote: I have a frustratingly limited understanding of Islamic esotericism, but I bought this book based on obnoxion’s article. And yes, on its own, it does present a huge amount of opinions (or, perhaps, selected quotes) regarding Iblis, that are fascinating in their diversity.
Well I have very limited understanding too, but based on poetry and arts in generally I have gained some kind of knowledge or a hint which books per se couldn't give to me. Nevertheless, I am not an expert on this field. :)

I have read very little about Kabbalah and even less about Qliphot, but what I have read seems to be like Insanus writes here. It's not a plain antithesis of Sephirot, to my understanding.

Re: The issue with a religion of the Devil

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:59 pm
by LoopGodel
Thanks everyone who contributed to this very interesting conversation. While reading it, Jung's "Answer to Job" came to mind & the concept of God evolving. I also thought of the Zoroastrian teaching, which as far as I understand it, sees "darkness", "evil" etc - as intrinsic to the process of the material multiverse emerging into reality.

I find the Judaic conception of "evil" to be much more mature and pragmatic than the deeply dualistic Christian doctrine about God and Satan being locked in a battle for souls. The great Gnostic researcher, Elaine Pagels, has written a book on the emergence of Satan, which would be worth looking at for those who are interested.

Regarding the original topic about a specific religion of the Devil, the thing I am drawn to most about the Star of Azazel community & teachings is that it seeks to articulate and illuminate a path towards union between Light & Dark, from within - "as within, so without".

As others have commented, there is much within mainstream Satanism that seems rather juvenile - a reactionary brand of anti-Christianity, rather than a mature path of self-development in it's own right. For some, that might be an important first step, but reacting and rebelling can only take one up to a point on the Path.

For me, the Star of Azazel stands quite differentiated from the vast majority of what I have read & heard about Satanism. I am very glad to have found such a respectful & intelligent community, as well as provocative and insightful texts such as Fosforos. As the saying goes, "Fools rush in where angels fear to tread". Based on my experiences so far, I believe the SoA offers invaluable & wise support for those travelling the Path of Night.



Re: The issue with a religion of the Devil

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 7:23 pm
by Polyhymnia
I found this page in relation to the Qlipoth which I found to be a very interesting and in depth read.

I have limited knowledge myself of the Qlipoth and was surprised to see it was an invention of 20th century Western Occultism.