No problem!Jiva wrote:Thanks you for your responses. Firstly, allow me to apologise for some lack of clarity and a mistake. I mentioned Vexior's work and my relation to it to state that I have some understanding of something that shares similar sentiments to your belief (his full name was Vexior 218 after all, while he quotes from Liber Azerate in Gullveigarbok), but is ultimately not identical. And yeah, I meant "acosmic" rather than "anti-cosmic". I've made that annoying mistake on this forum and other places a few times.
Yes, indeed it seem to have been, his name I mean, but the “was” part and the fact that his name no longer have 218 after it should be as telling when it comes to his direct relationship with what I follow and practice. But, on a core level he does indeed seek something similar, so similarities can for sure be found, but what's similar isn’t on the inner level always the same.
I follow Tradition. If I start to make up my own tradition then I'll also call it “Current 1234” or something else to show it is not part of something else and my own path. So if this guy does his own thing with similar goals then I wish him the best of luck and success with it, but it is still not the same as what I do, as what defines Tradition is the Traditional Approach and Initiation.
Yes, big difference between Acosmic and Anti-cosmic, many people make that mistake and can actually lead to great misunderstandings, as: “the Primal State beyond and before YHVH and AZeRATe is the Acosmic Void of the Fullness of Emptiness and it is first within the emanations fallen from the Acosmic Ain that the Cosmic and Anti-Cosmic impulses come into being, with their roots in the right and left side of the Ain Sof.”
Sorry but you misunderstood what I wrote about sacrifice. The Ego-sacrifice part is just one aspect reflecting the inner process related to what we could call the Inner Alchemy of such rituals, but as I explained already the act of sacrifice is not a mere symbolic one.Jiva wrote:Anyway, I mentioned that I considered how you describe animal sacrifice as similar to the Biblical sacrificial goat as you include part of your ego/life force, presumably transmitted to the animal during your bonding. How you view this, I'm not sure: is the part of your ego/life force similar to the Jewish 'sin offering' of something corrupt to be purified, or a similar transmission of something you consider pure to it's proper home, or something else entirely?
Sacrifice is for the giving of life-force and power to the “receiver”, or for the directing of such force and power in order to cause certain manifestation, empowerment or resurrection.
It is not a symbolic act related to one’s own sins or something like that, it is about adding power of a certain kind to something or someone needing it. Like when unnatural addition of power is needed in order to provoke manifestations or when it comes to actually feeding certain spirits that on the level they are asked to work lack their own means for the producing of certain kinds of “energies” needed.
It is all about practical energy manipulation on a certain specific level.
“…to condemn an entire genre…”???Jiva wrote:And while I'd agree that some philosophy is undoubtedly “mental masturbation”, to condemn an entire genre of research as such would be like saying all devotional/ceremonial worship is the “aesthetic masturbation” of dancing round altars in capes. It may be true in some cases but certainly isn't the rule. Philosophy could be an anathema to someone; it's not a prerequisite: to each their own. However, philosophy is one of the many genres of human activity that have enjoyed a historic crossover with occultism/esotericism/mysticism/whatever – after all, I would assume the terms “form” and “essence” are derived from Platonic philosophy?"
Did I say that all philosophy was “mental masturbation”? I would be insane if I had that opinion, as of course what I follow also have a philosophy at its base.
Where the “mental masturbation” things come in is when people focus on mental games and word-play in order to never have to get their hands dirty.
My philosophy tells me to Practice and to see the truth of things based on experience and spiritual intuition and not to limit myself to the worldly impulse that rule most people vocal in these fields.
We work with souls, spirits, gods and via direct experience gained from them we evolve, not based on some dry logic. All the books I have ever read couldn’t give me as much insight as when I for the first time for example experienced the truth of Qayin by experiencing his presence and manifestation in my life in connection to a ritual working.
To “Utesitta” on a place of power, or by a tree possessed by Spirit as dictated by our tradition and to actually commune with that spirit during trance and/or meditation is for example more worth than to have read all the books about plant sorcery and all academic speculations become meaningless when evocation actually gives result and a spirit throws a book down from the shelf opening it to the page where the info you asked for is shown.
In the tradition I follow we value those things over what was called “mental masturbation”, that doesn’t mean philosophy is something bad, it just mean that philosophising can’t become an excuse to not do Spirit-Work and that worldly logic is not to limit ones strive for power and Gnosis.
“We seek the company of Spirits and not those of man” and that is the reason for why you don’t see our people online and engaged in discussions and social fraternisation.
The only reason why I post here now is because I saw some things that I reacted to and asked my mentor if I could respond and he told me to do as I wanted and so I did, with permission, as I otherwise would never play representative on the Internet.
Soon I will not have much more to add, besides advising people interested in 218/182 to study the books and if still interested start to practice and see what happens and Know if they are of the Current or not.
Best of luck with your own paths.